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i raised that with your colleague, john mccain. i don't see that. you could make a point on raising taxes on the rich and the president won that argument or you could argue to what degree but it seems like every single item republicans are own negotiating on how much to raise revenue. >>guest: i made a commitment that i didn't think raising taxes was a good idea, we were spending teach. i am perplexed that a fiscal cliff occurs when you sequester or cut federal spending. i thought that was good. i thought we needed to cut more spending and i don't understand why cutting spending or sequestering spending is a fiscal cliff. the other half of the equation on taxes, i don't think raising taxes is good and much seems to agree. that would be tax-geddon but, what about raiding taxes on 40 percent of the economy? that is what we are talking about, it is only 1 percent of the people but 40 percent of the nation's income. >>neil: what do you think of your colleagues who do not see that or they are scared after the election and they seem to be just folding lik
i raised that with your colleague, john mccain. i don't see that. you could make a point on raising taxes on the rich and the president won that argument or you could argue to what degree but it seems like every single item republicans are own negotiating on how much to raise revenue. >>guest: i made a commitment that i didn't think raising taxes was a good idea, we were spending teach. i am perplexed that a fiscal cliff occurs when you sequester or cut federal spending. i thought that...
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everyone is talking about john mccain again. so some people wonder if there's a little bit of political opportunism there. >> i want to go back to something krystal said a minute ago. closing ranks behind susan rice because much political battle lines in this. you made the point earlier if you just looked at this without regard to benghazi and said john mccain realistically speaking, who potentially could appoint secretary of state that would agree ideological with you. realistically susan rice is as good as he can do. the consensus in the democratic party is probably to the right of it. i wonder is there any push-back from the left or from democrats in washington toward the administration just saying, hey, look, don't fall for this trap of nominating susan rice because you have to? get somebody that agrees more? >> susan rice is very well respected, and i know a lot of progressives wanted her to be a spokesperson because they thought she was effective. susan rice is known as the conscience of the administration when it comes to
everyone is talking about john mccain again. so some people wonder if there's a little bit of political opportunism there. >> i want to go back to something krystal said a minute ago. closing ranks behind susan rice because much political battle lines in this. you made the point earlier if you just looked at this without regard to benghazi and said john mccain realistically speaking, who potentially could appoint secretary of state that would agree ideological with you. realistically...
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they and john mccain tell reporters their questions about benghazi have gone unanswered. they say ambassador rice didn't answer them in their meeting with her this morning. and apparently neither did david petraeus in his closed door testimony more than a week ago. nor other administration officials in their testimony a week prior to that. mind you, senator mccain and others skipped that because it was in conflict with their benghazi media schedule. regardless, they have now had the opportunity to meet practically every major actor in this ginned up controversy, but it doesn't matter because this is all they had to say just a short time ago. >> significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. i'm more convinced than ever that it was bad, it was unjustified. >> joining us now is goldie taylor, an msnbc contributor and author, and dana mill barbankmi columni isist for "the washingt post." who else do republicans need to hear from because we're running out of names or are they exp
they and john mccain tell reporters their questions about benghazi have gone unanswered. they say ambassador rice didn't answer them in their meeting with her this morning. and apparently neither did david petraeus in his closed door testimony more than a week ago. nor other administration officials in their testimony a week prior to that. mind you, senator mccain and others skipped that because it was in conflict with their benghazi media schedule. regardless, they have now had the opportunity...
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lynn, john mccain has been the chief inquisitor pushing these claims. however, i want to play for you two pieces of sound from him. one from a few weeks ago, two weeks ago, in fact, the other from sunday. see if you can notice a little difference. >> i will do everything in my power to block her from being the united states secretary of state. >> she could conceivably get your vote for secretary of state? >> i think she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position just as she said. >> that was -- they were, of course, clips referring to susan rice. to my ears that second clip sounds like what is known in military circles as a retreat. is that right? >> well, i think -- yes, it's right, martin, and senator mccain's retreat if that's what you want to call it, pretty good word, by the way, for this actually started a week ago sunday. this is the second sunday in a row where he is laying the groundwork for letting susan rice vhave her say if she's nominated. this seems prudent because carrying on a campaign against her when y
lynn, john mccain has been the chief inquisitor pushing these claims. however, i want to play for you two pieces of sound from him. one from a few weeks ago, two weeks ago, in fact, the other from sunday. see if you can notice a little difference. >> i will do everything in my power to block her from being the united states secretary of state. >> she could conceivably get your vote for secretary of state? >> i think she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain...
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. >> john mccain is now softening his opposition to her possible nomination as secretary of state. >> i give everyone the benefit of explaining their position and the actions that they took, and i'll be glad to have the opportunity to discuss these issues with her. >> we'll talk to former bush national security adviser steve hadley. >>> plus a new wave against president morsi. >>> and two indianapolis colts cheerleaders save their hair in support of their coach's fight against leukemia. >>> good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. congress is back. grover norquist's tax pledge could be history. and all eyes are now focusing on house republicans as talks to avoid going over that so-called fiscal cliff are picking up steam. joining me now, mark halperin, senior political analyst for "time" and msnbc and ruth marcus, columnist and editorial writer for the "washington post." to you, mark, what is your read about what we've been hearing the last couple of days about grover norquist, the pledge and how much running room the speaker does have to b negotiating a deal. >> i did a spit
. >> john mccain is now softening his opposition to her possible nomination as secretary of state. >> i give everyone the benefit of explaining their position and the actions that they took, and i'll be glad to have the opportunity to discuss these issues with her. >> we'll talk to former bush national security adviser steve hadley. >>> plus a new wave against president morsi. >>> and two indianapolis colts cheerleaders save their hair in support of their...
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it was great what mccain did. getting the heat. and republicans were being sexist. and let me give her a fair shake. john bolton was up for administration. they pulled the same stunt. >> dana: i think she was failed by people around her. president obama should be mad at him. rather than be mad at senators. is he not concerned they got it wrong? purposefully so? >> brian: this is what she said roughly. the talking point provideed by the intel community and were incorrect. there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. if this is your client. or somebody you work for. when this comes up, there are too many questions to know for sure. you could have walk around and hillped her beat the questions in two seconds. north dakota is easy to say that. this is the 15th of september. she was dealing with fresh intelligence information. the idea that john mccain and the guys, would grade bolton as an example why she shouldn't get in secretary of state -- >> dana: why? >> bob: i don't think he was up to the job at all. >> dana: they don't think she is up for the job. did you
it was great what mccain did. getting the heat. and republicans were being sexist. and let me give her a fair shake. john bolton was up for administration. they pulled the same stunt. >> dana: i think she was failed by people around her. president obama should be mad at him. rather than be mad at senators. is he not concerned they got it wrong? purposefully so? >> brian: this is what she said roughly. the talking point provideed by the intel community and were incorrect. there was...
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to be secretary of state or is the benghazi which brought about politics as usual was her panel what mccain and company are really up to in tonight's law and liberal rubble also even though as i was restrictive abortion ban is blocked from taking effect officials now state are still trying to prevent women from getting abortions and we're going to see an end to the conservatives war on women. you need to know this once there were three amigos. left. the tree you mean. they were the biggest stars of their day. soon. free. to come back on the. block. always three amigos please three amigos. they stick together through thick and thin from the queensland to the holy land from the ball field to the battlefield they are senators joseph lieberman lindsey graham and john mccain they've been called everything from the three amigos the three blind mice and the axis of error by the website downsize d.c. . org. those are the real three amigos big but because lieberman is leaving the senate the too many goes needed a new amigo and they chose one of the republican party's rising stars new hampshire senat
to be secretary of state or is the benghazi which brought about politics as usual was her panel what mccain and company are really up to in tonight's law and liberal rubble also even though as i was restrictive abortion ban is blocked from taking effect officials now state are still trying to prevent women from getting abortions and we're going to see an end to the conservatives war on women. you need to know this once there were three amigos. left. the tree you mean. they were the biggest...
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senator john mccain said fewer and fewer people are signing this "pledge." it's actually a pledge, but any way. senator coburn called it "a tortured vision of tax purity." and it did you want end there in that article. bill crystal said this. >> let's have a serious debate. don't scream and yell when one person says, it won't kill the country if we raise taxes on millionaires. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer. >> a calmist at the national review wrote, as a matter of political strategy not to say survival, republicans will have to agree to raise taxes on those defined as rich. republicans must also contend with the pew poll that asked who would be more to blame if a deal were not reached. before a single meeting has been held, 29% said they blamed president obama while 53% said they would blame republicans in congress. former mississippi governor hailey barber was asked whether republicans should be open to upping tax rates if they got spending cuts in return. he said "if there's enough savings, if there's enough entitlement reform
senator john mccain said fewer and fewer people are signing this "pledge." it's actually a pledge, but any way. senator coburn called it "a tortured vision of tax purity." and it did you want end there in that article. bill crystal said this. >> let's have a serious debate. don't scream and yell when one person says, it won't kill the country if we raise taxes on millionaires. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer. >> a calmist at the...
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she'll be meeting with john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. we're keeping our eye on that and we will keep you posted. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >>> a state senator from idaho is now getting behind a plan that's been circulating on tea party blogs. calling for states that supported mitt romney to refuse to participate in the electoral college. a move they believe would change the results of the election. it's the kind of radical talk that turned off a lot of voters in the last election, but the wall street journal reports, they are regrouping, searching for candidates who can win in 2014. i'm joined by amy cramer who is chair of th
she'll be meeting with john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. we're keeping our eye on that and we will keep you posted. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for...
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joe lieberman used to echo everything that john mccain says. but now he says this. >> she was under no political influence from the white house. >> stephanie: okay, all right. [ world news music ] >> to think she was almost our vice president. >> stephanie: she shouldn't have manipulateed the intelligence or stayed silence on bengahzi. republicans have a new line of attack. if it was unclear why say anything at all because then nobody would be screaming cover up then, would they. >> no. >> stephanie: yeah, the question is should they have been given information at all if you're only giving bad information should you be giving any information. they didn't know it was bad information at the time or they wouldn't wouldn't be giving it. to fault rice not only to be more critical of the assessment she was given. she should have psychically known it was wrong or not potentially revealing classified information. i'm sure they wouldn't have said anything if she would have revealed classified information. that would have been much better. what? during t
joe lieberman used to echo everything that john mccain says. but now he says this. >> she was under no political influence from the white house. >> stephanie: okay, all right. [ world news music ] >> to think she was almost our vice president. >> stephanie: she shouldn't have manipulateed the intelligence or stayed silence on bengahzi. republicans have a new line of attack. if it was unclear why say anything at all because then nobody would be screaming cover up then,...
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the world has changed. >> senator john mccain weighed in as well. here's what he said. i'm sorry. let me read to you what he said. fewer and fewer people are signing this, quote, pledge. do you worry that this pledge is losing its grip on lawmakers? >> look, soledad, as you know, the people making this case, the three -- the two senators and the congressman that were put forward, they all said that two years ago when we were arguing over the debt ceiling limit. so their position hasn't changed. and during the debt ceiling limit we cut spending, we didn't raise taxes. so other republicans did not listen to peter king or these others and say, oh, let's go raise taxes. they're speaking for themselves. i do want to correct one thing. peter king knows -- congressman peter king of new york noknows full well the pledge he signed and others, it's for while you're in congress, not a two-year period. >> it sounded to me he was sort of saying you have to re-up it for it to be legal or whatever the right word is. >> first of all, it's explained to everyone when they sign, it's in writing with
the world has changed. >> senator john mccain weighed in as well. here's what he said. i'm sorry. let me read to you what he said. fewer and fewer people are signing this, quote, pledge. do you worry that this pledge is losing its grip on lawmakers? >> look, soledad, as you know, the people making this case, the three -- the two senators and the congressman that were put forward, they all said that two years ago when we were arguing over the debt ceiling limit. so their position...
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john mccain was on tape questioning whether she was qualified. there's one, a powerful senator. >> he thought she was qualified before. i'm not sure what's changed. here's the problem with the entire debate. everyone is focuses, at least these three senators focus on susan rice. none focus on their former colleague, which is former senator hillary clinton. she's the secretary of state. she's the sitting secretary of state. she's leaving. guess what? the embassy security was directly under her purview and staff's purview. i'm not suggesting she did anything wrong. i'm suggesting they're barking up the wrong tree. the problem with these three senators, kelly ayotte, lindsey graham and john mccain, is they're barking up the wrong tree here. >> what is the tree that's appropriate if we continue with that metaphor? >> the sitting secretary of state. if they're concerned about what happened in benghazi with our security, with our ambassador and the three other people that were killed, they ought to ask the sitting secretary of state to come to the cong
john mccain was on tape questioning whether she was qualified. there's one, a powerful senator. >> he thought she was qualified before. i'm not sure what's changed. here's the problem with the entire debate. everyone is focuses, at least these three senators focus on susan rice. none focus on their former colleague, which is former senator hillary clinton. she's the secretary of state. she's the sitting secretary of state. she's leaving. guess what? the embassy security was directly under...
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john mccain has been leading a republican attack on u.n. ambassador susan rice. they claim rice who might be the next secretary of state purposely misled the american public about the attack in benghazi. that led to four americans including am bass door, dead. he realized that his baseless attacks made him seemed like a crazy old coot. he's agreed to meet rice face-to-face tomorrow in d.c. she will talk to other detractors. some current cabinet members like timothy geithner said they will soon be leaving. in tonight's political round table, we will draft our fantasy choices for these slots. here to play, joe williams. we've never played before, comes to us from washington d.c. joining me here is christine the chair of the california democratic party women's caucus. we begin with secretary of state. your fantasy choice is samantha powers christine yourself is chuck hagel and mine is james cunningham. why do you pick power? >> if we're doing a fantasy draft, you want somebody that goes hard to the left. we've had enough who go to the right. basically, samantha powe
john mccain has been leading a republican attack on u.n. ambassador susan rice. they claim rice who might be the next secretary of state purposely misled the american public about the attack in benghazi. that led to four americans including am bass door, dead. he realized that his baseless attacks made him seemed like a crazy old coot. he's agreed to meet rice face-to-face tomorrow in d.c. she will talk to other detractors. some current cabinet members like timothy geithner said they will soon...
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the republicans should move on to other serious questions. >> well, especially if -- yes, yesterday, mccain and ayotte and graham were saying we want to know why the u.s. military was unable to respond within search hours, our consulate was left so insecure. these are not questions susan rice has the answer to. luke, i want to ask about the interpersonal dynamics. susan rice is tough and as the governor said during the break she does not suffer fools badly. these were make nice meetings that didn't seem to go so well, correct? kelly ayotte known as a particular fire brand but came out with very, very strong language and said she would put a hold on susan rice's nomination. >> look, two things were surprising here. number one, a visit like this when you're actually not the nominee to be secretary of state, is a little odd. we were talking with other reporters earlier and no one can really remember these types of diplomatic visits for someone not officially nominated. after the criticism of rice softened this past weekend a lot of us expected this would be a get nice pow wow. it turned out to
the republicans should move on to other serious questions. >> well, especially if -- yes, yesterday, mccain and ayotte and graham were saying we want to know why the u.s. military was unable to respond within search hours, our consulate was left so insecure. these are not questions susan rice has the answer to. luke, i want to ask about the interpersonal dynamics. susan rice is tough and as the governor said during the break she does not suffer fools badly. these were make nice meetings...
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>> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of knowledge at the time, about security protections and so forth, but as far as holding ambassador rice personally accountable for the incomplete and in some cases wrong story she gave on five different shows that sunday, i don't think that behind closed doors the republican senators were going after her personally. they came out afterwards and made it sound like the grave matter it was involving her. i don't think that's where they're at behind closed doors. >> let's listen to president obama on november 14th. about the senator's attacks on ambassador rice. >> when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target? then they've got a problem with me. and should i choose, if i think that she wou
>> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of knowledge at the time, about security protections and so forth, but as far as holding ambassador rice personally accountable for...
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john mccain could not admit that barack obama beat him, then mitt romney because president obama is a better candidate than they were and president obama is a better and wiser man of government than they could ever be. they say they need to sound -- and less crazy on women's issues, then they could win the electoral college in a landslide. >> obviously, we have to do immigration reform. there is no doubt whatsoever that the demographics are not on our side and we are going to have to give a much more positive agenda. and as far as young women are concerned, absolutely. i don't think anybody like me, i can state my position on borgs, but other than that, leave the issue alone. >> you say leave the issue alone. you'd say freedom of choice is this. >> i would allow people to have those opinions and respect those positions. i'm proud of my pro-life opinion and record, but i respect your views. >> as republicans continue to access their second loss of the presidency in a row, they keep grasping at all kinds of straws instead of admitting they were up against a superior candidate in barack
john mccain could not admit that barack obama beat him, then mitt romney because president obama is a better candidate than they were and president obama is a better and wiser man of government than they could ever be. they say they need to sound -- and less crazy on women's issues, then they could win the electoral college in a landslide. >> obviously, we have to do immigration reform. there is no doubt whatsoever that the demographics are not on our side and we are going to have to give...
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that is more than the mccain campaign spent in its entirety. remarkable thing. a lot of senate candidates still one. but in house races it had an impact. barack obama, sherrod brown, governors -- they have definition. the spending is a little less nefarious. it's still tough to deal with, but you are not somebody who is now and then somebody drops $4 million on your head will have an impact. we have never seen spending like this. there is a term in politics called gross rating points, the amount of television you buy. 1000 points means the average viewer sees the ad 10 times. that is the standard. there were markers were -- markets at 3000 or 4000 gross rating points. the republican super pac's -- if he went to cincinnati or las vegas, i spent a lot of nights in hotels -- i would turn on the television. it was wall-to-wall political ads. in many of those markets you see two or 3 republican ads for every democrat ad. what we do about this? a huge question for our country. there are strong differences on this. we had one individual spend $100 million in the presid
that is more than the mccain campaign spent in its entirety. remarkable thing. a lot of senate candidates still one. but in house races it had an impact. barack obama, sherrod brown, governors -- they have definition. the spending is a little less nefarious. it's still tough to deal with, but you are not somebody who is now and then somebody drops $4 million on your head will have an impact. we have never seen spending like this. there is a term in politics called gross rating points, the...
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this is part of the demise of john mccain. then, you have lindsey graham using this in his upcoming race for re-election. it is pretty disgusting stuff. >> it is the politics of personal destruction, no question about it. it is also distortion politics. not a whole lot of positive things for the republicans. they are really on the defensive. they are looking for something negative to put on the president. the president has twice supported susan rice. secretary clinton did that today. you can't get any more aggressive than that. >> some recent polling shows that where as americans don't like the way benghazi was handled, they don't think they were intentionally trying to mislead the people. they are trying to say the president did want us to know how bad the threat from al qaeda was. the decision was made to modify those talking points because we didn't want the enemy to know what was going on, not because there was an attempt to mislead the american people. >> there is a report out that ambassador susan rice has a major financ
this is part of the demise of john mccain. then, you have lindsey graham using this in his upcoming race for re-election. it is pretty disgusting stuff. >> it is the politics of personal destruction, no question about it. it is also distortion politics. not a whole lot of positive things for the republicans. they are really on the defensive. they are looking for something negative to put on the president. the president has twice supported susan rice. secretary clinton did that today. you...
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he was going to say, i john mccain have the moral authority, i john mccain have the credibility to block susan rice if i want her to be blocked and by god, i'm going to do it, and then suddenly, yesterday, huh-uh, boy, he switched gears. boy did he back pedal at warp speed. >> huge. >> it was a fascinating thing to see. >> what's this meeting tomorrow all about? is this just another briefing for three senators that have taken issue with her performance? what's this about? what do you expect out of this meeting? >> i think it's a savvy political move by rice to say that -- to understand that you know, she does have to answer mccain's concerns because he still is to some people, not to me, but to some people, he still is john mccain with a lot of authority. and so she has to go see him. but i think she's going to come out of this meeting looking fine. i think mccain is going to have a press conference tomorrow where he's going to say she probably -- that she answered his questions to his satisfaction and i think he's going to send the signal tomorrow afternoon that she's okay. >> maybe the
he was going to say, i john mccain have the moral authority, i john mccain have the credibility to block susan rice if i want her to be blocked and by god, i'm going to do it, and then suddenly, yesterday, huh-uh, boy, he switched gears. boy did he back pedal at warp speed. >> huge. >> it was a fascinating thing to see. >> what's this meeting tomorrow all about? is this just another briefing for three senators that have taken issue with her performance? what's this about? what...
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he was john mccain's economic adviser in the first campaign. he is now running the american action forum. he is one of the best hot shots on fiscal issues but does it kindly and then we have steve case. i wanted to give him chairmanship of the jobs council, jeff immelt had that but not for long. steve case, one of the founders and chairman of aol, he chairs the entrepreneurship council, chairman of revolution, very tied up in trying to think about what are the spark the drive innovation, creativity, how do you drive young people here. you have been involved in a major study, u.s. competitive project at harvard business school. engage thousands of people, thousands of voices, discussions with hundreds of economic leaders and come up with a eight point plan of things you are advocating. i have gone through and some of that makes a lot of sense to me. it would have made sense in the 1990s and the 1980s. what makes you think this is such a big deal now? >> i want to say we have had a chance to interact with the jobs council in the harvard business
he was john mccain's economic adviser in the first campaign. he is now running the american action forum. he is one of the best hot shots on fiscal issues but does it kindly and then we have steve case. i wanted to give him chairmanship of the jobs council, jeff immelt had that but not for long. steve case, one of the founders and chairman of aol, he chairs the entrepreneurship council, chairman of revolution, very tied up in trying to think about what are the spark the drive innovation,...
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this is the exact words john mccain used yesterday. i don't think anybody like me, meaning a male of a certain age, i can state my position on abortion, but to -- other than that leave the issue alone. in other words, he doesn't want to be heard on the issue really in terms of any debate over the platform. he basically thinks the party ought to stop fighting over it as a party, but you, sir, don't agree with him. >> i would say there are 750,271 people in the fifth congressional district of oklahoma male and female. and to say i'm a male that i can't represent the female opinion in my district is incorrect. there are hundreds of thousands of females in my district that are very pro-life and very passionate about this issue and they deserve a voice in congress as well. so does that child. i understand the plight of the woman that's pregnant but i also understand the plight of the child. >> well said for your point of view. last word, joan? >> i think this is going to be an issue that splits the party. the republicans have pandered to pe
this is the exact words john mccain used yesterday. i don't think anybody like me, meaning a male of a certain age, i can state my position on abortion, but to -- other than that leave the issue alone. in other words, he doesn't want to be heard on the issue really in terms of any debate over the platform. he basically thinks the party ought to stop fighting over it as a party, but you, sir, don't agree with him. >> i would say there are 750,271 people in the fifth congressional district...
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would have disown add pledge that isn't feasible now including oklahoma senator coburn, arizona's john mccain, south carolina's graham, idaho's crapo, tennessee's alexander, and georgia's sam bliss. it is not that they have all become antipledge, more like, well, antisweeping pledge. particularly the party of that pledge that called for resisting any move to end any tax break. to hear georgia's chambliss, too rigid, too inflexible, noting times have changed significantly, and i care more about my country than i do about a to-year-old pledge. if so, so what now? norquist in a second, to bob on republicans increasingly happy to make grover the grinch. what do we make of this? what is going on? >>guest: republicans lost the election. it was about tax policy. most republicans want to get a deal they have to give something up. they will want something in run so if they bend on taxes they will want an entitlement reform, so, that is the rub, but, republicans do not want to raise the rates with you they want to eliminate the tax loopholes and bay down the debt. that would break grover's pledge. >>ne
would have disown add pledge that isn't feasible now including oklahoma senator coburn, arizona's john mccain, south carolina's graham, idaho's crapo, tennessee's alexander, and georgia's sam bliss. it is not that they have all become antipledge, more like, well, antisweeping pledge. particularly the party of that pledge that called for resisting any move to end any tax break. to hear georgia's chambliss, too rigid, too inflexible, noting times have changed significantly, and i care more about...
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senator kelly, john mccain, and lindsay gramm. the ambassador wishes to speak with them. i am sure she will -- by snc will be accommodated. i am ondering how much mcconnell feels right about now. >> well, interesting thing for the demonstration at this point, the president is sort of trap now in nominating ambassador rice as secretary of state. waiting for the moment that hillary clinton, waiting for her to give the word, but the president, having stood so strong in her defense, strongly in her defense around what she said that up and gauzy and the video that she said was the cause of the attack that killed those americans that now they are boxed in. he prtty well has to stick with her. this is are going around to say in private what she was in public which, based on the testimony from the general and others is, it was a calculation that it was a decision that was made at the white house that it would be bad business to be out saying that it was a terrorist. lou: what is your reaction, tucker? >> what a waste of time. remarkable. i mean it. as a liticalcalculation. the pr
senator kelly, john mccain, and lindsay gramm. the ambassador wishes to speak with them. i am sure she will -- by snc will be accommodated. i am ondering how much mcconnell feels right about now. >> well, interesting thing for the demonstration at this point, the president is sort of trap now in nominating ambassador rice as secretary of state. waiting for the moment that hillary clinton, waiting for her to give the word, but the president, having stood so strong in her defense, strongly...
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john mccain, and his news, john kerry, still a big force in the senate and maybe a nominee for secretary of state. it's hard to see mitt romney in the roles. remember that one of the ideas that mitt romney floated during the presidential campaign, just might be part of the deal that gets -- >> which is the cap. >> a cap. he would put a pretty low cap, $17,000 on high income taxpayers. it's possible that will survive even though mitt romney's presidential prospects did not. >> or could be a $50,000 cap or something even higher than that. now chris cizilla, let's talk about the lack of civility or the contentiousness of this susan rice situation where she's back on the hill today. let me play a little bit of susan collins, republican from maine, known as a moderate, discussing the possibility of a john kerry nomination to be secretary of state. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> at the same time, there was really no love there for susan rice and what she did, which was surprising to a lot of us watching, was she raise
john mccain, and his news, john kerry, still a big force in the senate and maybe a nominee for secretary of state. it's hard to see mitt romney in the roles. remember that one of the ideas that mitt romney floated during the presidential campaign, just might be part of the deal that gets -- >> which is the cap. >> a cap. he would put a pretty low cap, $17,000 on high income taxpayers. it's possible that will survive even though mitt romney's presidential prospects did not. >>...
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here is john mccain. >> as far as young women are concerned, absolutely. i can state my position on abortion, but other than that leave the issue alone when we are in the kind of economic situation and frankly national security situation that we're in. >> so you would say freedom of choice? >> i would allow people to have those opinions and respect those opinions. i'm proud of my pro-life position and record but if someone disagrees with me i respect your views. >> bill: chris wallace obvious i will "fox news sunday." the republican party not to make that a number one issue would be a major change wouldn't it? >> it i would be. they tried that this last election cycle, but they got pushed back, and sometimes democrats were able to force the issue, but in the house they had these -- they had five or six i believe abortion votes over the last two years, none of which had really any real impact because they were votes on the hyde amendment, which already has been in place, and there is this sort of group of republicans that are increasingly saying we need to
here is john mccain. >> as far as young women are concerned, absolutely. i can state my position on abortion, but other than that leave the issue alone when we are in the kind of economic situation and frankly national security situation that we're in. >> so you would say freedom of choice? >> i would allow people to have those opinions and respect those opinions. i'm proud of my pro-life position and record but if someone disagrees with me i respect your views. >> bill:...
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senator john mccain went on fox news yesterday. and while he didn't say much that i agreed with, he did say this. >> there is no doubt what so oh ever that the demographics are not on our side and we are going to have to give a much more positive agenda. and as far as young women are concerned, i don't think anybody like me, i can state my position on abortion but other than that, leave the issue alone. >> leave the issue alone. and if republicans don't, they'll pay the price again on the next election day. joining me now is alena maxwell and alicia menendez, host and producer of huff post live. alicia, let me start with you. so the republicans lost the election and now lawmakers are pushing the same kind of policy that caused their big disaster on election night. >> yeah. i mean, it's pretty unbelievable. and at the same time, it makes sense. if you can't win the new coalition, if you can't win african-americans, hispanics, young americans, then you just stop them from voting. that's part of what we're seeing in virginia. and when
senator john mccain went on fox news yesterday. and while he didn't say much that i agreed with, he did say this. >> there is no doubt what so oh ever that the demographics are not on our side and we are going to have to give a much more positive agenda. and as far as young women are concerned, i don't think anybody like me, i can state my position on abortion but other than that, leave the issue alone. >> leave the issue alone. and if republicans don't, they'll pay the price again...
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mccain has been one of her most vocal critics. the current u.s. ambassador to the united nations has been criticized. mccain now says he will not block rice's nomination and he'll give her a chance to explain. >> i give everyone the benefit of explaining their position and the actions that they took. i'll be glad to have the opportunity to discuss these issues with her. >> rice has said that her description of the attack was based on the best intelligence at the moment. republicans have accused her of downplaying an obvious terrorist attack for political motives. >>> other stories we're watching this morning, a huge gas explosion in springfield, massachusetts, that hurt 21 people was the result of human error. the state fire marshal's office says a utility worker inadvertently poked a hole in a high pressure gas line. that line was incorrectly indicated by sidewalk markings. on friday afternoon the gas built up and eventually it ignited. one building was destroyed. dozens more were damaged. >>> police are investigating the death of a suspected sho
mccain has been one of her most vocal critics. the current u.s. ambassador to the united nations has been criticized. mccain now says he will not block rice's nomination and he'll give her a chance to explain. >> i give everyone the benefit of explaining their position and the actions that they took. i'll be glad to have the opportunity to discuss these issues with her. >> rice has said that her description of the attack was based on the best intelligence at the moment. republicans...
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. >> jennifer: for the record, that was senators john mccain and lindsey graham so the question is this grover norquist's last stand? here with an answer is donnie fowler. donnie of course, democratic strategist and great political operative. welcome back into "the war room." is it grover norquist's last stand? >> we can only hope. look, i think republicans should just say sign the pledge for the last election. not for this congress. it expired. there's only 39 of the 40 top senators and republicans -- six are freed. let his people go, grover. let your people go. >> jennifer: he ain't going to let them go. all of this is occurring in the context of the fiscal cliff negotiations and what lindsey graham was suggesting was that if you close some of the loopholes and deductions and revenue goes up, that's not raising taxes apparently grover norquist sees it differently but interestingly enough, there is a push then from the left as well and there are unions that have taken out ads to pressure democratic senators not to compromise. >> how do we move our country forward and reduce the deficit
. >> jennifer: for the record, that was senators john mccain and lindsey graham so the question is this grover norquist's last stand? here with an answer is donnie fowler. donnie of course, democratic strategist and great political operative. welcome back into "the war room." is it grover norquist's last stand? >> we can only hope. look, i think republicans should just say sign the pledge for the last election. not for this congress. it expired. there's only 39 of the 40...
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bill: we mentioned john mccain. who else is at this meeting, catherine. >> reporter: one of the most interesting developments this morning is that in addition to rice and the senators the acting director of the cia mike mo remember, l will -lts be at th will also be at the meeting. there is no comment on why he is there and at whose request. morel along with the senior leadership in the intelligence community said those controversial talking points about benghazi were changed after they left the u.s. intelligence community. now there has been a complete reversal of that position with a spokesman for the national of intelligence, he is the senior manager of the intelligence community saying they were behind the significant changes which involved stripping out the language of al-qaida. again the criticism of rice is that in addition to talking points she had access to classified intelligence that showed strong support for a terrorist attacks within days not within two days of the assault. bill: there is drama in these
bill: we mentioned john mccain. who else is at this meeting, catherine. >> reporter: one of the most interesting developments this morning is that in addition to rice and the senators the acting director of the cia mike mo remember, l will -lts be at th will also be at the meeting. there is no comment on why he is there and at whose request. morel along with the senior leadership in the intelligence community said those controversial talking points about benghazi were changed after they...
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and dan, what do we hear from mccain and graham this weekend? it seems maybe they provided a little bit of wiggle room now. >> it certainly does appear that way. what we're seeing is a change in tone. there had been sort of this harsh rhetoric they wanted to block this nomination, said they would block this nomination. and now there seems to be this tone where they want to give susan rice a chance to explain herself, that they're willing to sit down and talk over these issues with her. at a listen to what senator mccain had to say about this over the weekend. >> i think she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position, just as she said. but she is not the problem. the problem is the president of the united states. >> now, again, we should point out that she has not been nominated for this post, but there's a lot of speculation that she is the top choice from this white house to replace secretary clinton when she departs. also another name, john kerry on that list. but again, nothing definite on that. but nonethele
and dan, what do we hear from mccain and graham this weekend? it seems maybe they provided a little bit of wiggle room now. >> it certainly does appear that way. what we're seeing is a change in tone. there had been sort of this harsh rhetoric they wanted to block this nomination, said they would block this nomination. and now there seems to be this tone where they want to give susan rice a chance to explain herself, that they're willing to sit down and talk over these issues with her. at...
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look at the laundry list john mccain gave you. immigration reform and abortion. yeah, you got that black vote on lock, don't you. and look, because they want to continue tone gauge in voter suppression. now let me just put that on the table. the reason african-american people are not seen as a likely vote rich demography is because the republicans are engaged in the direct renuns yags of historic lentiling from the civil rights community that protects the value of that black vote. not only black vote but people in southern regions and older people and the like. so there's tremendous tension still afoot here and this is the big elephant in the room. obama is still a black guy and there is still a lot of resentment. i can't tell you the hate mail i get just from making comments that look like they might think that obama is a reasonable person and the hostility is so deep that i'm afraid that it's also reflected in certain elements of the political class as well. >> but one thing we don't know yet, i think, is what the republican strategy is. because last time after
look at the laundry list john mccain gave you. immigration reform and abortion. yeah, you got that black vote on lock, don't you. and look, because they want to continue tone gauge in voter suppression. now let me just put that on the table. the reason african-american people are not seen as a likely vote rich demography is because the republicans are engaged in the direct renuns yags of historic lentiling from the civil rights community that protects the value of that black vote. not only...
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senator john mccain softening his stance toward the u.n. ambassador in a move that could pave the way to her becoming secretary of state. we'll talk about that plus after a record setting black friday cyber monday sales could not biggest yet. we'll tell you how much americans are expected to spend and the question of the day. read my lips. should the gop dump grover norquist's antitax pledge? tweet me and hit me up on facebook as well. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicke
senator john mccain softening his stance toward the u.n. ambassador in a move that could pave the way to her becoming secretary of state. we'll talk about that plus after a record setting black friday cyber monday sales could not biggest yet. we'll tell you how much americans are expected to spend and the question of the day. read my lips. should the gop dump grover norquist's antitax pledge? tweet me and hit me up on facebook as well. music is a universal language. but when i was in an...
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ambassador susan rice, senator john mccain who vowed to block her potential nomination as secretary of state appears to be backing off that threat. >> she could conceivably get your vote for secretary of state? >> i think she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position, just as she said. >>> actor ben affleck has long been involved in efforts to help the victims of war-torn eastern congo. on sunday he talked about his call for the u.s. to take a more active role. >> i think our actions in foreign policy, and maybe i'm naive, represent our values and represent who we are. and if any american were to go to that country and stand and see what was happening there, they would insist that we do what we could. >>> more than ten years after she was kidnapped as a teenager, elizabeth smart is finally ready to tell her own story in a new book. and the author is chris stewart who was just elected to congress from utah. he tells "the salt lake tribune" he hopes to have the first draft written before he takes office in january. >>> and finally, guess who else got th
ambassador susan rice, senator john mccain who vowed to block her potential nomination as secretary of state appears to be backing off that threat. >> she could conceivably get your vote for secretary of state? >> i think she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position, just as she said. >>> actor ben affleck has long been involved in efforts to help the victims of war-torn eastern congo. on sunday he talked about his call for the u.s. to...
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i don't want to impute to senator mccain or graham but is there an element of tweaking the president here? >> there always is. whatever party is doing it. one of the things that sounded interesting from senator ayotte is that based on her comments, she seemed more concerned about what she heard from the acting c.i.a. director, mike morrell than -- she named him first and susan rice was almost an afterthought. i wonder if that was what was disturbing to senator ayotte or any of the other senators. >> eliot: that might be more legitimate although the c.i.a. if you listen to david petraeus said we knew this was not a spontaneous revolt or spontaneous eruption and therefore our information -- look, this will continue for some period of time. let's switch gears a little bit to what's going on in egypt. which seems to be sort of gripping us at an international level. morsi on one day is a hero. he's brokered a deal. the second day he's under assault by the very people in the street who swept him into power. how do you assess what's going on and our capacity to nudge him toward maintaining
i don't want to impute to senator mccain or graham but is there an element of tweaking the president here? >> there always is. whatever party is doing it. one of the things that sounded interesting from senator ayotte is that based on her comments, she seemed more concerned about what she heard from the acting c.i.a. director, mike morrell than -- she named him first and susan rice was almost an afterthought. i wonder if that was what was disturbing to senator ayotte or any of the other...
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i want to play something john mccain said on the issue of abortion. i'll ask you about it on the way out. >> i don't think anybody like me -- i can state my position on abortion, but to do other than that, leave the issue alone. i would allow people to have those opinions and respect those opinions. i'm proud of my pro-life position and record. but if someone disagrees with me, i -- >> is the republican tent big enough to have pro-choice republicans? >> well, sure. but it's still a pro-life country. you saw the gallup poll. >> the standard-bearer of polling these days. there was a virginia exit poll, 2-1 margin people called themselves pro-choice. you have the high profile ultrasound bill. i know you weren't supportive of it but there was criticism that your party didn't get rid that have bill soon enough. >> chuck, if we capitulate, we are a pro-life party. that's pretty obvious. but this election is decided on economic issues, spending and debt and on other issues. i'm very pro-life. everybody knew that when i ran and i won by 18 points. they embrac
i want to play something john mccain said on the issue of abortion. i'll ask you about it on the way out. >> i don't think anybody like me -- i can state my position on abortion, but to do other than that, leave the issue alone. i would allow people to have those opinions and respect those opinions. i'm proud of my pro-life position and record. but if someone disagrees with me, i -- >> is the republican tent big enough to have pro-choice republicans? >> well, sure. but it's...
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john mccain on "fox news sunday." >> renounce the statement and move he just made. allow the judiciary to function. if the judiciary is flawed in some way, that is a ill nose be -- illness cured over time. to assume this power is unacceptable to the united states of america. then we can outline what action might be taken. but first, condemn it. this is not acceptable. this is not what they expect. over dollars will be related to the progress toward democracy. >> senator mccain is helpful here by pointing out that the united states has leverage over egypt. i disagree with jonah on the idea id's a new dictatorship in home of the muslim brotherhood. in the negotiation with israe israel, morsi showed he can separate himself out and fact a pragmatic fashion. i don't know if he is represent brotherhood. the next day cashing in the political capital by declaring yourself unimpeachable dictator of the country. >> i guess we know this. there is no question on the matter of human rights. pickerson said we went from guys from mustaches to beards. not a good trade. our goal is
john mccain on "fox news sunday." >> renounce the statement and move he just made. allow the judiciary to function. if the judiciary is flawed in some way, that is a ill nose be -- illness cured over time. to assume this power is unacceptable to the united states of america. then we can outline what action might be taken. but first, condemn it. this is not acceptable. this is not what they expect. over dollars will be related to the progress toward democracy. >> senator...
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capitol hill, she and the acting cia director, michael morell, meeting with republican senators john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsay graham, who were not pleased with what they heard. >> it is clear that the information she gave the american people was incorrect when she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video. it was not, and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case, including statements by libyans as well as other americans who are fully aware that people don't bring mortars and rocket-propelled grenades to spontaneous demonstrations. >> in a statement after the meeting, ambassador rice said that neither she nor anyone in the administration intended to mislead the american people. but the breaking news concerns the part in her sunday talk show statements that substituted the word "extremists" for al qaeda. remember, the administration said she was working from edited talking points. the question is, who did the editing? today, the senators say that acting director morell told them the fbi did. they say they later heard fr
capitol hill, she and the acting cia director, michael morell, meeting with republican senators john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsay graham, who were not pleased with what they heard. >> it is clear that the information she gave the american people was incorrect when she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video. it was not, and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case, including statements by libyans as well as other...
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john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and i want to say -- >> i'm more troubled today knowing having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people was wrong, in fact, ambassador rice said today, absolutely it was wrong. >> drunk driving
john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video....
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senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they have more questions than they had before rice's comments about benghazi. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get it. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> that's troubling to me as well, why she wouldn't have asked, i'm the person that doesn't know anything about this, i'm going on every single show. >> joining me now for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor managing editor of post politics.com and our own nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. well, this was pretty tense. chris, first to you. you've seen a lot of confirmation battles. this really did seem like an escalation, a warning shot. >> maybe they come out of this and say, look, we still kind of disagree with the way this played out but the explanations that ambassador rice gave us helped us understand. instead, what we got coming out of it was, as you point out, i think, an u
senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they have more questions than they had before rice's comments about benghazi. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get it. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> that's troubling to me as well, why she wouldn't have asked, i'm the person that doesn't...